The Return of the Real McCain
Arizona senator denounces torture and debunks Bin Laden myths
During the last administration, even as a supporter of the Iraq invasion and the "war on terror," McCain broke ranks with his party to protest the worst excesses of the George W. Bush presidency. In one of the most memorable moments of the otherwise desultory Republican primary debates in 2008, he cited the Constitution, the Geneva Conventions and American military tradition to upbraid Mitt Romney for waffling on the issue of waterboarding. "This is what America is all about," he said indignantly. "This is a defining issue."
With every right-wing enabler from John Yoo to Marc Thiessen to Liz Cheney suddenly stepping forward to suggest that the death of bin Laden absolves Bush-era criminality, it is refreshing to hear McCain's clear, strong voice of opposition. The torture advocates have claimed that the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, a high-ranking leader in Al Qaeda and an alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attack, caused him to reveal the identity of a courier whose trail led, almost seven years later, to the hideout in Abbottabad, Pakistan.
McCain is having none of this nonsense, as he explains in a blistering essay published in The Washington Post:
"The trail to bin Laden did not begin with a disclosure from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times. The first mention of Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti—the nickname of the Al Qaeda courier who ultimately led us to bin Laden—as well as a description of him as an important member of Al Qaeda, came from a detainee held in another country, who we believe was not tortured. None of the three detainees who were waterboarded provided Abu Ahmed's real name, his whereabouts or an accurate description of his role in Al Qaeda. In fact, the use of 'enhanced interrogation techniques' on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed produced false and misleading information."
Torture Endangers U.S. Soldiers
Owing to his own experience of brutality at the hands of his North Vietnamese captors as a prisoner of war, McCain possesses a moral authority on the subject that no other American politician can claim. He also understands—from the perspective of someone who was once subjected to "enhanced interrogation"—why extreme pain and fear tend to produce unreliable information:
"I know from personal experience that the abuse of prisoners…often produces bad intelligence because under torture a person will say anything he thinks his captors want to hear—true or false—if he believes it will relieve his suffering. Often, information provided to stop the torture is deliberately misleading."
Why is this still important? McCain doesn't believe that those who ordered and implemented the crimes of the past should be punished, although not everyone in this country or elsewhere agrees. But he is certainly correct when he says that any endorsement of torture endangers American soldiers who may someday be captured in conflict abroad. And he is yet more astute in noting that amid the Arab democratic awakening—which we hope will repudiate everything represented by Al Qaeda and its unlamented leader—our country must "stand as an example of a nation that holds an individual's human rights as superior to the will of the majority or the wishes of government."
Boasting that torture vanquished our worst enemy is wrong, stupid and unbecoming to a democracy that lost so much moral authority by violating the principles of our founders during the past decade. As McCain might say, that was a mistake we cannot afford to repeat.
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We are dealing with people who have no problem committing suicide to undermine our way of life. Therefore our best leverage against these people is to keep them alive as long as possible but under the threat of daily non stop torture of the most inhumane nature. As George Bush once told us in a speech last year "you're damn right we waterboarded 'm" when it prevents a major terrorist attack. I wonder if John McCain were to face again those who tortured him if down deep he wouldn't mind taking wack at them for a little payback? Maybe get a little Medieval on those bastards with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch.
Hell yeah, buckaroo!
Let's get them homo's next, cowpoke.
AMEN, David & Duke!
Of course you chickenhawk rightards are all in favor of it. Too bad torture doesn't work. As Jesse Ventura, who was waterboarded as part of his Navy Seals training said: "It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a water board, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders."
Hey Duke- who said anything about anyone's sexual orientation? You- that's who. And you used a slur, to boot! Try to stay on topic, and keep your not-so-closeted homophobia to yourself.
@WiscActor- you too resort to slurs and (this is where it really gets good) you actually use a Jesse Ventura quote to attempt to make your point. That is rich, my friend. Do you think aliens are waterboarding abductees right after the anal probing? Jesse Ventura knows darn well that Cheney is a robot with mind-control powers, and that he couldn't get within 30 feet of him without being vaporized by his laser beam eyes.
Next time, just go right to the source- Charles Manson. He could speak quite eloquently on the Tate murders, I'm sure...
The fact is that waterboarding was neither the only factor in catching Bin Laden, nor was it an insignificant factor. It was a part of a continuing effort to break the will of someone who was willing to die and kill for his cause, and it was probably a crucial part. No one can determine with any surety the degree to which waterboarding aided in catching Bin Laden. Unless you can read KSM's mind, you might as well stop arguing about it.
Yup, Livingston's extremist crap brings out other extremist crap.
The article is right, that we need to keep upholding human rights, the kind we defined in our constitution, and live and breath these ideals everyday, even in foreign environments where those ideals are not adopted. It's called setting an example, how to have fair "rules of engagement".
He is right, that when these muslim extremist terrorists finally have a middle class life, have something to lose, that they WILL give up that extremism! When they finally get a taste of majority democratic government, they will understand.
It's just too bad that many of our own in this country have given up on democracy, want to shift to an apartheid-like minority rule, the rule of the few haves over the many have-nots, the rule of the few god-fearing over the many godless, however you want to divide it.
Mind you, that even our have-nots still have much more in this country than the commoners may have in their own. No wonder their restless youth turn to extremism when faced with a non-future... (Sound familiar, inner-city Milwaukee?)